7 Controversial Survival Secrets Learned From The Ukraine Civil War

7seceretsFortunately, most Americans have never had to endure a war on our home front. However, there’s a level of ignorance, and even a bit of hubris, that comes along with never having experienced the horror and powerlessness of a war raging in your own backyard…

It’s a humbling experience, to say the least, to come face to face with a set of dire circumstances that you are simply powerless to change. To take a note from the following reports from inside the Ukraine war zone — war will take your best-laid plans and rip them to shreds.

To help us confront the likelihood that our SHTF “master plans” are largely built upon a foundation of overconfidence, lets take a look at the real world experiences of several posters who’ve shared their first hand experiences on a Russian gun enthusiast forum.

These folks don’t sugar coat the situation for you. Several of the truths they’ve shared may very well contradict your ideas about surviving a crisis, to boot.

Translations courtesy of the Modern Survivalist:

1.) Decide if you will stay or evacuate

“First decision you have to make is to evacuate or to stay. If you are evacuating, you need to do that as soon as armed groups of people appears. It does not matter if they armed with shotguns or pitchforks. If the government is not capable of stopping them, that’s the end. If you react early enough, you still can sell your house and some of your belongings. The later you go, the less things you will be able to sell, and the less things you will be able to take with you. The earlier you go, the easier it will be to settle on a new place.”

2.) Have money in a stable currency.

“Probably the best prepping for situations like that is having some money in some stable currency. You can buy what you need (especially in big cities) or you can use those money to settle in the new place”

3.) Avoid Camo or any military style clothing.

“If you have anything on you that even remotely looks like military you will draw unwanted attention with unpredictable results. For civilians it is better to have jackets from Gas or another utility company uniform – they seem to treat you better on the roadblocks and you are not drawing attention.”

4.) Bug-out bags are really, really useful.

“I lived in suburb called Metallist. At first we started to hear gunfire, that tanks and armored vehicles started to come into the neighborhood, first shelling came. For some reason we were still sitting there, nobody wanted to leave the house. And last 3 days we could not anyway. Finally 2 heavily armed guys showed up at my house and said they are going to use the attic, and it would be safer if we move. they gave us 10 minutes to leave the house, and this is were my bug out bags became useful.”

5.) Backroads are not going to be free and clear.

“Don’t think you can get away using back roads – usually there are patrols on most of them and on nearby altitudes and any movement there could be treated as enemies Sabotage-reconnaissance group. And now there are mines everywhere. The safest way out for the family is through the main road and road blocks. A lot trouble comes if you have older relatives – they don’t want to go even to a close relatives, but only until shelling did not become constant. When the walls start trembling, they what to go anywhere, but by that time it is impossible.”

6.) A big 4×4 bug-out vehicle makes you a target. 

“What’s better – city car or 4 wheel drive… The thing is, even outside of ATO zone you go only through roadblocks. Of course, if you have a 4WD, you can try to ride through fields or forest roads. But, first of all, if any military sees you that would try to stop you or just will start shooting, either side, because there are a lot of Sabotage-reconnaissance groups. And second – the are mines. And there are a lot of them, and they set by both sides without any maps, so that their own troops get blown up.”

7.) Big cities are often safer than suburbs.

“People asked where to live better – suburb, city or village. I think the best is a house close to the middle of the city. All the suburb had combat, in the remote villages were no laws, but in the middle of the city there is always some sort of government.”

** These tips were originally posted on this Russian forum and were translated by Sygata.

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9 Comments

  1. I do not have a credit card what do I do to get this survivel secrets

  2. The Patriot Caller
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    Hi Jimmy, scroll down through the article to see secrets 1-7.

  3. what is the evidence living in the heart of a city is comparatively safer ?

  4. The Patriot Caller
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    I wouldn’t necessarily classify any of these anecdotes as “evidence,” but for me at least it’s enlightening to hear a real-world perspective

  5. I think most of these tips are relevant to the U.S. However, in our urban areas there may be roving bands of looters and thugs. I recently bought a used Subaru Outback. It is an ordinary street vehicle, a station wagon if you will, with 4 wheel drive. Good ground clearance and it is rather unremarkable looking. Definitely not a bug out looking vehicle. I keep my bug out bag handy as does my son and granddaughter. We are as ready as we can be.

  6. This man (Selco) is a true survival expert. Most all of the people writing about survival are not experts.
    This man lived through a year of hell. Anyone who has read his story realizes that this man has been
    there and back.

  7. Good info. Pay attention people. THIS is stuff you can expect if “They” get off what “They” are trying to. Either by fomenting a full-blown Racial Civil War, or the Tactic du Jour which seems to be all of a sudden giving a $@#T whether or not Congress “declares War” on ISS so “They” can cause a False Flag and make the ENTIRE US a “War Zone”. Shortly after THAT “They” will trot out the 2015 War Powers Act, which, you can Bet Your A$$, is already WRITTEN and WAITING. Also, there is some GREAT intelligence from the info given by that Argentinian who wrote awhile back what happened when the Currency there collapsed. Don’t remember his name but you can find it online easy enough. Alot of times, Real-World scenarios are totally OPPOSITE of what we are expecting.

  8. Islamic Muslim militants are appointed To US government offices to islamizise Christian based USA into an Islamic occupied nation ruled by Sharia law

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The
    Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
    Watch same on Utube;
    http://youtu.be/6ikV9kxAwL4

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a
    complete, total, 100% system of life.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component like a beard distracts its victim from the other more dangerous legal, political, economic, social, and military components.

    Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
    agitate for their religious privileges.

    When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies
    agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the
    other more dangerous components tend to creep in as well.

    Here’s how it works:

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given
    country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving
    minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

    United States — Muslim 0.6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
    disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among
    street gangs. This is happening in:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
    percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the
    introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
    securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure
    on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with
    threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
    to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
    The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the
    entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase
    lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we
    are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and
    results in uprisings and threats, such as inAmsterdam, with opposition
    to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen
    daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
    militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
    churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks,
    and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of
    all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic
    cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax
    placed on infidels, such as in:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run
    ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the
    infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and
    in some ways is on-going in:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of
    Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because ever1:place w:st=”on”>United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of
    Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim,
    the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such
    as in:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%

    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most
    radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust
    by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

    ‘Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me
    against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family
    against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe
    against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The
    Haj’

    It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under
    100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations
    live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which
    they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these
    ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim
    religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into
    the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only
    the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with
    death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and
    extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

    Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But
    their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus,
    Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the
    world’s population by the end of this century.

    Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse.
    The wolves will be herding the sheep!

    Obama appoints two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn’t
    this make you feel safer already?

    Obama and Janet Napolitano appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as
    Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.

    DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim
    who was born in Damascus, Syria, as ADC National Executive Director as a
    member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

    NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified
    as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant…? Just
    wondering.

    Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions?
    Doesn’t this make you feel safer already??

    That should make the US’ homeland much safer, huh!!
    Was it not “Devout Muslim men” that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8
    years ago?

    Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

    Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
    Theologically – no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia
    Religiously – no… Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
    Scripturally – no… Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
    Geographically – no… Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
    Socially – no… Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews..
    Politically – no… Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
    Domestically – no… Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
    Intellectually – no… Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
    Philosophically – no… Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
    Spiritually – no… Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.
    Therefore, after much study and deliberation….
    Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS
    in this country. – – – They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans.
    Call it what you wish, it’s still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
    Can a muslim be a good soldier???
    Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!
    Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.
    SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
    THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.
    Please don’t delete this until you send it on.
    More info can be read in ;
    Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The
    Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
    Watch same info on Utube;
    http://youtu.be/6ikV9kxAwL4

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